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Hiryuu

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Unfortunate news from earlier today. It seems that the powers that be on the project were contacted by Nintendo in an agreement to end the emulator development. The Github and Download sections of the site are now closed and further Discord invites have been halted.

It is unknown what the terms of the deal were between them but it's yet another Switch emulator that has been ended similar to Yuzu before it earlier this year.

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Wonder whats gonna happen with Switch stuff going forward
I know the sources for Yuzu and Ryujinx have been archived, but I'm sure plenty of people will be trying to create their own forks and such

What a pain...

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Nintendo's goal here is pretty obvious. They are sending a message to prospective emulator developers:

_{Nintendo said:}
Do NOT emulate our new console, or we will have your fucking ass served deep fried on a plate of gold!!

And as much as I hate it, it makes sense. They really did lose a lot of sales on the Switch and it's games from people pirating games for Yuzu. I'm not a corporate suck-ass, but honestly I can't help but think trying to emulate a current gen console, before it's even in it's senior years is just a bad fucking idea.

ModernVintageGamer made a video discussing his thoughts on this and I honestly agree with his conclusion that Switch emulation is going to stagnate because of this, even though the source code still exists out there. It sucks to see, but I guess people will just have to be smarter next time.

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Nintendo is going to go after emulators for current hardware. That's just asking for it.

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I still hold on to my firm opinion that, if Nintendo were to actually take game preservation seriously, there would be no justifiable reason for people to put on a pirate hat, and plunder their chests. But as it is, this is where we're at.

I do agree that releasing current-gen emulation to the public is a bad idea, though. Doing that, the developers are straight up begging to be C&D'd by Nintendo. And while this wasn't a typical C&D on Ryujinx, it effectively is in this case.

I do have to wonder though... people have been doing current gen emulating since the Wii U days. Why did Nintendo choose to crack down now, instead of then?

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Nintendo has no reason to want game preservation. If archive.org ever loses its DMCA exemption, Nintendo and others like them will be at their doorstep within the first hour demanding everything about them. All they care about is profit.

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At the same time Palworld is clearly a bootleg, not a fangame. It's Pokemon Fortnite and it's charging full price for it. That's using Pokemon designs and gameplay elements to get money. Nintendo has every reason to strike them down. This isn't a fangame or a romhack situation. It sure as hell isn't about preservation either. That's what emulation is for and emulation is free. When the person is charging money for the roms or the emulator, that's usually what alerts companies like Nintendo to come after them. It's not like when someone comes up with a similar idea and wants to make an omage but it's still it's own thing. Palworld is Pokemon with guns.

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Posted by MacUser
...Palworld is Pokemon with guns.

And Nexomon and others like it?

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Posted by MacUser
That's what emulation is for and emulation is free. When the person is charging money for the roms or the emulator, that's usually what alerts companies like Nintendo to come after them.

That didn't stop Nintendo from going after Vimm.net. And, other websites like it. Though they probably went after these sites for a different reason.

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Posted by MacUser
At the same time Palworld is clearly a bootleg, not a fangame. ... That's using Pokemon designs and gameplay elements to get money. ... Palworld is Pokemon with guns.

No, so much wrong here. bootleg is basically a romhack and based on the original game, so clearly this is not what happened here. Palworld uses original monster designs and does not use any of existing designs from Pokemon. Proof is that Nintendo didn't do any copyright strike for stealing Pokemon designs.

The patent system for gameplay elements is borked and hinders innovation in the gaming industry. You should not celebrate that in my opinion. It is remain to see what actual patent infringement here is, because we don't know yet. And no, Palworld is not Pokemon with guns, its a complete different genre and has nothing to do with Pokemon.

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At the same time Palworld is clearly a bootleg, not a fangame. ... That's using Pokemon designs and gameplay elements to get money. ... Palworld is Pokemon with guns.

No, so much wrong here. bootleg is basically a romhack and based on the original game, so clearly this is not what happened here. Palworld uses original monster designs and does not use any of existing designs from Pokemon. Proof is that Nintendo didn't do any copyright strike for stealing Pokemon designs.

The patent system for gameplay elements is borked and hinders innovation in the gaming industry. You should not celebrate that in my opinion. It is remain to see what actual patent infringement here is, because we don't know yet. And no, Palworld is not Pokemon with guns, its a complete different genre and has nothing to do with Pokemon.

There's such a thing as bootleg merch, toys, clothing, ect. If Palworld were allowed to continue, you'd have knock off plushies ect.

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