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ArceusI
Posted on 02-15-25 02:53 PM, in Link | ID: 1559

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Yuku is down, and due to that DraStic is gone too after going free.

I ain't affected as I use RetroArch and John GBA/GBC Lite with Adguard protection.

But dang does Nintendo know what they're up do guys? This isn't a war Nintendo will win, they're losing popularity as they continue doing this. Hence their influence is waning. You don't just plum attack preservation, you embrace it and keep it going.

Yes, this post is related to Gaming, and it makes sense to post it here. Unlike the one in General (Which should be moved to this forum just in case), this is more up to date with info. Anybody can add to this if they want to.

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NovaSquirrel
Posted on 02-15-25 04:25 PM, in Link | ID: 1560

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I'm not sure what's going on with DraStic, given that it seemed to play things really safe (using homebrew games for its store screenshots, not supporting encryption, using its own clean BIOS implementation, etc.) but I don't think it's a sign that (most?) emulators are in danger. At least in the United States I think if people aren't infringing copyright, trademark, or patents, then the only applicable thing remaining is DMCA's anti-circumvention rules, which doesn't apply to consoles that don't use encryption.

Check out my site! It's got a bunch of projects I've worked on, including homebrew and a virtual world about collaborative map building that's RP focused.

ArceusI
Posted on 02-15-25 04:32 PM, in Link | ID: 1561

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Posted by NovaSquirrel
I'm not sure what's going on with DraStic, given that it seemed to play things really safe (using homebrew games for its store screenshots, not supporting encryption, using its own clean BIOS implementation, etc.) but I don't think it's a sign that (most?) emulators are in danger. At least in the United States I think if people aren't infringing copyright, trademark, or patents, then the only applicable thing remaining is DMCA's anti-circumvention rules, which doesn't apply to consoles that don't use encryption.


Well, it is concerning if DraStic disappeared from the Google Play Store. Others could follow suit.

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Clotaire
Posted on 02-15-25 07:53 PM, in Link | ID: 1562

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To be honest, I think the far bigger danger is the patents that Nintendo is trying to enforce. IMO, they are starting to repeat the same mistakes that they saved us from back in the 1980s. But that's a topic for another time.

But on the topic of Yuzu, I have no sympathy for Yuzu, by the way. They earned their grave with what they did before they shut down their operations.

ArceusI
Posted on 02-15-25 07:57 PM, in Link | ID: 1563

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Posted by Clotaire
To be honest, I think the far bigger danger is the patents that Nintendo is trying to enforce. IMO, they are starting to repeat the same mistakes that they saved us from back in the 1980s. But that's a topic for another time.

But on the topic of Yuzu, I have no sympathy for Yuzu, by the way. They earned their grave with what they did before they shut down their operations.


Yeah, Yuzu wasn't that good of a Switch Emulator.

But after Yuzu fell, DraStic became free, then DraStic was taken down by Google. It's absolute chaos in the Emulation world if this keeps up.

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Clotaire
Posted on 02-15-25 08:01 PM, in (rev. 2 of 02-15-25 08:02 PM by Clotaire) Link | ID: 1564

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Posted by ArceusI
Yeah, Yuzu wasn't that good of a Switch Emulator.

But after Yuzu fell, DraStic became free, then DraStic was taken down by Google. It's absolute chaos in the Emulation world if this keeps up.


Well, until more information surfaces on DraStic, I can't really comment on it other than, "oh, well that's not good", but yeah, Yuzu committed a cardinal sin when it came to emulation, and that's trying to profit off of licensed products that don't belong to them.

ArceusI
Posted on 02-15-25 08:07 PM, in Link | ID: 1565

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Posted by Clotaire
Well, until more information surfaces on DraStic, I can't really comment on it other than, "oh, well that's not good", but yeah, Yuzu committed a cardinal sin when it came to emulation, and that's trying to profit off of licensed products that don't belong to them.


That's how Nintendo took Yuzu down. But the news is still reeling over DraStic's removal from app stores. As time passes, we'll see what happens with other emulators.

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Zoinkity
Posted on 02-17-25 12:38 AM, in Link | ID: 1566

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But wasn't DraStic's dev very open about plans to remove it from the stores?

Iirc, the story started when the google store removed it for a short time due to some bookkeeping reason (a bad description or something), then it was fixed. At that time though DraStic's dev said they have plans to eventually go free, then after about a year of being a free app (likely as long as needed so they don't require giving refunds) they planned on deleting it from the stores entirely.

It has been some time though, maybe things changed along the way.

ArceusI
Posted on 02-17-25 12:40 AM, in Link | ID: 1567

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Posted by Zoinkity
But wasn't DraStic's dev very open about plans to remove it from the stores?

Iirc, the story started when the google store removed it for a short time due to some bookkeeping reason (a bad description or something), then it was fixed. At that time though DraStic's dev said they have plans to eventually go free, then after about a year of being a free app (likely as long as needed so they don't require giving refunds) they planned on deleting it from the stores entirely.

It has been some time though, maybe things changed along the way.


Interesting. Never knew that side of the DraStic story.

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